Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> · Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:01:22 +0000



    On 07/24/2013 07:33 AM, Brendan Jones
      wrote:

    
    On
      07/24/2013 03:50 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
      

      Earlier this evening I was asked how I
        expected Fedora to function in
        

        any way similarly to how it does now without the backing of one
        or more
        

        organizations like Red Hat.
        

        I gave the quick answer  "through donations" since I was not in
        mood to
        

        give the detailed answers ( and taint that thread even further )
        however
        

        I'm about do it here to certain extent since the questioner
        probably did
        

        not expect me to have actually given this any thought which I
        actually
        

        have although I have not chiselled it into stone, making it the
        concrete
        

        proposal the community demands since it's just a small fraction
        of a
        

        True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed.
        larger idea or rather vision I have but I have decide it be the
        correct
        

        time to share that part of that vision of mine with the rest of
        the
        

        community to gather feedback.
        

      Under the current model I thought it is not possible to make
      monetary donations to Fedora (I remember Jared Smith saying
      something about this at a linuxconf.au a while back) Hardware,
      physical items, consumable media etc is OK though. Something to do
      with US taxes, correct me if I'm wrong.
      

    I dont think "gift economy"  will work for us either because
    anything you "give" to the project can be seen as being given with
    the anticipation of return or obligations under us laws.

    
    Anyone from the legal needs to answer the question what the options
    are regarding the Fedora trademark and donations ( can it /needs it
    to be change from trademark to something else ) and what Red Hat can
    and cannot do ( even if it's not willing to do that ) so we can as a
    community focus on the options available to us.

    
    The other alternative is to simply reallocate the entire community
    and infrastructure outside US under a new name ( if so where? )
    which begs the question if Red Hat can and will continue to support
    us if we do. 

    
    JBG

    Gifts are not given with an anticipation of return: -
      See more at:
http://www.shareable.net/blog/how-to-legally-open-a-gift-economy#sthash.xafaMsTT.dpu
    “The soup has been so helpful to me over the years,
      but I’ve never been able to return the favor. I feel I should
      compensate you somehow!” - See more at:
http://www.shareable.net/blog/how-to-legally-open-a-gift-economy#sthash.xafaMsTT.dpuf
     For years, I make soup for my elderly neighbor,
      simply as a kind gesture. Then, I go through a rough financial
      time after setting my kitchen on fire. My neighbor, who just
      received a large inheritance, gives me $2000 to help out. These
      gestures do seem to arise from pure generosity and charity, so
      hopefully I wouldn’t have to include the $2000 in my income. - See
      more at:
http://www.shareable.net/blog/how-to-legally-open-a-gift-economy#sthash.xafaMsTT.dpuf
    True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed.
    True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed.
    True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed.
    True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed.
      True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed
    
  
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