Once upon a time, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 06:21:45PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Look, the proposal is not calling to replace sendmail, it's calling to > > remove any MTA. So "sendmail is a bad MTA" is not a good argument for this > > No, it's *really* not calling to "remove any MTA". It's calling for no MTA > to be installed by default, or at least not in the minimal install. > > The two arguments against this change I hear are: > > * "This is a slipperly slope to the doom of all MTAs". This argument isn't very > convincing -- otherwise non-sendmail MTAs would already be dead, as would > every other server we don't install by default. > > * "An MTA should be part of the base design." This point I'm open to, > although I think it requires more work than people are willing to > actually do, and I'd like to see a counter-proposal involving actually > doing that work. I run lots of servers with MTAs, and sendmail in particular (you mean everybody can't parse and understand lines like this: R$*+$*@$* $: $1+$2@$3 $| $>D <$3> <?> <!Spam> <> without Google? :) ). I have no problem with no-default-MTA. An MTA only works in most cases with additional configuration, and that configuration will vary widely between setups and MTAs. -- Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
