On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:58:10PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > In the end, making the pile of problems shrink requires working on the > pile of problems. That does not mean you can not deploy over multiple vms, > but if you take the fact you can deploy over multiple vms as an excuse not > to work on the basic problems you're in for rude awakenings. Splitting is > easy. Merging is hard. And merging always happens someday. The winning > long-term strategy is to work as much as possible as if you have a single > baseline, and keep bundling as a last-ditch temporary workaround. Okay, this I follow much better. But, I simply disagree that this is the winning long-term strategy, because the actual impact isn't that everything is merged into a perfect whole, but that the perfect whole is missing important pieces and everyone else is over doing something else where that stuff just works. This disagreement is a reasonable one, and I think it roughly falls into what is classically called "The Right Thing" vs. "Worse is Better". I think we agree that the same basic things are important, just disagree about their ordering. I think that the approach where we get things in and then work to improve them where possible is the one with better long term prospects. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel