On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 06:53:24PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > What makes cron and smtpd work well together is that they both perform > async background computing. And many cron messages are not "logs" they're > notifications of an event the cron is polling for, or submission of job > results. Honest, non-loaded question here. Do you really find them default cron output mode helpful? You suggested earlier that I dislike cron's e-mail output, and while I hadn't brought up likes or dislikes before, I really don't find it so great. To me, it just fills up my mailbox with: Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Anacron Anacron job 'cron.daily' on bigcomputer.home. Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@wumpus> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/ Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@resonance> /opt/seas/sbin/sync-NIS Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <masher@releng03> TMPDIR=`mktemp -d /tmp Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> /etc/15m.local Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> /etc/15m.local Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> /etc/15m.local Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> /etc/15m.local Jul 02 Cron Daemon Cron <root@hpc> ionice -c3 run-parts /etc/cro If I did want e-mail output -- which I used to, before I had proper alerting set up, so as I mentioned before I totally recognize that use case -- I really would like it with a meaningful subject line, which means even when running out of cron, the jobs should actually call sendmail or /usr/bin/mail directly with pretty-formatted output. (And thus, have an explicit dependency on an MTA, and also basically have the expectation that they're running on a system which will be properly configured for its environment, however that happens.) -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel