On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 07:37:35PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> However, having the /usr/sbin/sendmail API available to applications >> is valuable - it brings a significant system administration benefit of >> centralizing the SMTP configuration. > > What does it mean to "have available"? Just that. The binary exists and does what it is expected to do. > As discussed earlier, I think it's > significantly better for applications to get errors (which they can handle) > than to think they've sent a message which really gets buried forever. In the case I'm thinking about, application installation instructions just say "make sure $sendmail works" instead of "configure SMTP (and TLS! and SMTP auth!) in this application-specific configuration file". > And it's just not possible to automatically configure e-mail. My claim that it is useful to have /usr/sbin/sendmail does not at all depend on having an automatic configuration that works for everyone. > I think the way forward is to encourage applications to _log_ rather than to > send e-mail, via this or any other API. Application that want to log shoud log. Applications that want to send e-mail should send e-mail. My bank's monthly statement would be rather useless in the bank's splunk archive. Mirek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel