Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile "Fedora.next" (draft of my Flock talk)

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On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Martin Langhoff
<martin.langhoff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Miloslav Trmač <mitr@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Matthew Miller
>> <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> This is a draft of the proposal I'm presenting at Flock, "An Architecture
>>> for a More Agile Fedora" (<http://sched.co/19ugKGM>).
>> (The more high-level comment.)
>>
>> This essentially explicitly gives up on the idea of "Fedora" or,
>> implicitly, "Linux" as a "platform"^W/"deployment target"/"ecosystem"
>
> Quite the opposite, I would say.
>
> The BSDs show that you can maintain a highly integrated small core OS
> with a tiny team. Android has shown it can be done on top of the Linux
> kernel. The traditional Linux distros are comparatively flailing at it
> -- throwing a ton more resources at it, badly coordinated.
I mostly agree with this part.


> If Fedora moves to a tightly integrated core, and does it in a way
> that other distros follow, Linux could grow a small core that moves in
> sync with the kernel and outpaces the competition.

This proposal doesn't seem to make rings 0 or 1 particularly more
integrated - just smaller; and it places a higher barrier to entry to
adding useful functionality to the core.

Want to add new a JSON library, HTTPS library with OCSP support, DNS
resolver to the integrated core?  Sorry, 30% of the stacks are on a
2-year lifecycle and can't use it now; other 30% have decided to ship
unmodified upstream code and will not integrate any Fedora
Core-specific patches.
    Mirek
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