mattdm wrote: > [...] > What does it mean to "have available"? As discussed earlier, I think it's > significantly better for applications to get errors (which they can handle) > than to think they've sent a message which really gets buried forever. There exist /usr/lib/sendmail submission-only imitators (ssmtp, msmtp) that could be trained to block until mail is delivered, and return error return codes upon rejection. > And it's just not possible to automatically configure e-mail. [...] As for outgoing SMTP, DHCP packets can identify servers; so can DNS heuristics. > I think the way forward is to encourage applications to _log_ rather than to > send e-mail, via this or any other API. That can be configured for e-mail > alerts if the admin really wants. But without configuration, nothing is > going to happen _anyway_. Such a transition should come along with all the tooling needed to emulate the status quo - i.e., scraped-log-to-email scripts. - FChE -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
