On Wed, 17.07.13 17:50, Denys Vlasenko (dvlasenk@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > On 07/17/2013 05:21 PM, John.Florian@xxxxxxxx wrote: > > > >> From: sclark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> This seems like such a specious argument. Maybe it made sense when > >> we were talking about disk drives > >> that were megabytes in size, but now we have 500 gigabyte drives > >> usually as a minimum. > > > > You don't ever work with embedded systems, do you? > > If you are running systemd on a embedded system, you are clearly > not concerned about saving space :) There are actually quite a few embedded devices running systemd these days. Wind generators, outer space telescopes, cars, toys, quite a lot of other stuff. We do get reports about this from time to time. And they do care about disk space, and since systemd is actually not that bad on that. systemd is quite modular and you can select at build time the components you need. And given that systemd already provides you with most things you need for a device, and reuses a lot of code internally the overall footprint is quite OK. The hierarchal watchdog support in systemd actually originates from embedded people, and they love it. This is not the kind of embedded that only consists of one kernel and one process, but it is the embedded that runs a small number of services, and systemd is quite suitable for that, and in production already. I actually attended a number of embedded conferences representing systemd. For example I attended the GENIVI conference twice. They work on standardization of Linux for car IVI systems. The GENIVI specs actually require systemd to be in it now. So, no snarky comments about embedded devices, please, it's entirely inappropriate. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
