On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 07:59 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> a. ntpd/ntpdate aren't installed by default with Fedora 19. > > In fact, ntpdate is, in many installs. OK well I don't have it on any of the clean F19 installs I've got here, and I have three. I'm not sure if they're DVD Gnome, or netinst Gnome or Desktop Gnome. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel