On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:56:45AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:52:40PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On 07/17/2013 12:06 PM, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: > > >On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > > > As mentioned before, if people run programs that require > > > > > > > /var/log/messages they should simply install rsyslog and be done with > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > >That terribly sounds like "my way or the high way". > > > > > >Many people have raised concerns not only about having /var/log/messages > > >in the base installation but about needing/wanting *simple text* logs by > > >default as well. > > > > > >I for one, advocate against having to use a (forced)tool to read log > > >files. > > So do I. Are you also against compression of log files? > > IMO, log files need to be readable without any special tools, > > because log files often are being read in cases of > > emergencies/breakdown (occasionally even from other OSes), when one > > can not rely on the tools being available or usable. > > > > > Even when you think it's better, many *do not*. > > > > ACK- > > > > Ralf > > Is there a way to read binary journals from non-Linux OSes? Compiling journalctl on UINXy OSes should not be too much of a problem. You'd need dbus >= 1.4.0, libcap, liblzma (if used by the journal files in question). Not trivial but certainly doable. Zbyszek -- they are not broken. they are refucktored -- alxchk -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel