On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:52:40PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/17/2013 12:06 PM, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: > >On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > As mentioned before, if people run programs that require > > > > > /var/log/messages they should simply install rsyslog and be done with > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > >That terribly sounds like "my way or the high way". > > > >Many people have raised concerns not only about having /var/log/messages > >in the base installation but about needing/wanting *simple text* logs by > >default as well. > > > >I for one, advocate against having to use a (forced)tool to read log > >files. > So do I. > > IMO, log files need to be readable without any special tools, > because log files often are being read in cases of > emergencies/breakdown (occasionally even from other OSes), when one > can not rely on the tools being available or usable. > > > Even when you think it's better, many *do not*. > > ACK- > > Ralf Is there a way to read binary journals from non-Linux OSes? -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel