On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:26:22PM -0700, Eric Smith wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Matthew Miller > <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:58:40PM -0400, Ding Yi Chen wrote: > >> You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts > >> that monitor /var/log/messages > > A) If someone is installing a program that expects this file, they can also > > install rsyslog. > > So? The same argument could be made for programs that expect the binary journal. No it isn't. It was already said: journald is here always, rsyslog is optional. The question is: should we install optional rsyslog by default? -- Tomasz Torcz Morality must always be based on practicality. xmpp: zdzichubg@xxxxxxxxx -- Baron Vladimir Harkonnen -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel