On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 09:17 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> > I'm afraid I can't agree. I like the simplicity of the model you're >> > proposing, but from a practical point of view, there is still a commonly >> > held perception that there is a 'product' called Fedora which is >> > basically composed of what you get if you go to get.fedoraproject.org, >> > download one of the things we push at you there, and install it. >> > Practically speaking, I believe we have to QA that 'thing called Fedora' >> > as a whole. I don't think your model quite matches what people perceive >> > Fedora to be. >> >> What's your definition of what people perceive Fedora to be? > > "What do we talk about when we talk about Fedora?" :) > > Well, we just did a major release. Go look on news.google.com for > "Fedora 19", or search for "Fedora 19 review", or just poke through a > few popular tech sites and forums. > > What do people do when they want to 'try Fedora 19'? They download the > primary image on the download page, which is the desktop live, and run > it. This is what they've _always_ done. Hmm I wouldn't be surprised if we had more Fedora users running on cloud instances now than we do on the desktop but there's no way to tell really. > Do you ever see anyone doing a minimal install and commenting on the > package loadout? Commenting on the actual interesting and difficult > technical changes that are what a distribution really does? No, they run > the live image for a couple of days, decide whether they think the > desktop background looks nice, say whether they liked the installer, and > bash GNOME 3 for a while. Or they run it in the cloud where it mostly just works and they don't give a hoot about a 10 year support cycle because their spun up image in some cases barely last 10 days and get on with their job and don't say a thing :-P > If we're really, really lucky they'll mention there are some other spins > available. In passing. Without ever downloading one. And that's about > it. Agree! -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
