On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:11:17AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > My voice may be one of thousands, but I'm saying: I want to have > traditional syslog service as default and have journal from systemd > as option. Can you elaborate on why? I'll accept "changing where sysadmins look for log data is expensive" as an answer, but wonder if you have something else as well. I know -- first hand, as a sysadmin! -- that this kind of change is disruptive. However, the journal has many benefits from a sysadmin point of view (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4CACB7paLc), and I think it's within Fedora's mission and Features/First mandate to explore it and see how we can bring those benefits while also working to reduce the transition cost. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
