Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

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On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:41:40 +0100
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:35:36PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Jaroslav Reznik
> > > <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Speaking about hardware - and that's more a question for Spot -
> > >> could be possible to organize another round of HW give away as
> > >> we did with Raspberries? With a different HW, that's supported
> > >> in Fedora and it seems like there are pretty cheap options
> > >> either. With some metrics, like commits/packages/packages that
> > >> need significant effort to make it working on ARM...
> > >
> > > The sentiment is nice, but I don't think that last hardware give
> > > away went all that well.  Also, to get something competent is
> > > going to cost money.  I have no idea what the Fedora budget looks
> > > like, but frankly I'd rather use money on something more
> > > beneficial than buying hardware for a bunch of people that aren't
> > > already working on ARM.  It will likely have a shiny factor of
> > > about 1 week, and then it will sit on their desk collecting dust.
> > 
> > I agree, not sure what the contribution to the RPi stuff was like
> > but for the XOs that were given away I'm not aware of a single
> > contribution to any of the Fedora/OLPC/Sugar projects as a result of
> > it.
> 
> People who are inclined to do non-trivial contributions to ARM will
> probably just go out and buy some ARM hardware themselves,
> particularly given how cheaply you can obtain the hardware. For
> others, having a central pool of Fedora managed/owned ARM hardware
> they can get temporary access to for the purpose of troubleshooting
> is likely a better use of limited funds.

I agree, the developer nodes we are looking to make available while
server nodes without video, run VNC very well, I have tested XFCE,
LXDE, KDE, Sugar, and Mate during f19 development via vnc on them as
well as locally on both pandaboard and trimslice. as well as XFCE and
KDE on chromebook.

There are lots of options for testing all the different aspects of the
Fedora software world on ARM.

Dennis
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