On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 08:01:46AM -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > But spins are Fedora, same as cloud image is still Fedora (and I don't > see complaints it does not run Gnome Shell ;-). Desktop spin is one > spin of the many spins but we promote it (for several reasons) more than > others. So again - I don't see this as a problem with having ARM as PA > (I can see other issues like HW availability, build times, resources) but > having an ARM spin composed from primary builds with a DE that suits > still limited resources on ARM machines - no problem at all. Even blocking > desktop release criteria are fulfilled this way as we don't require for > example LXDE spin to ship Gnome and KDE ;-). If I download the Fedora installation media, boot it, select all the defaults and then reboot into the installed system, I get a well-defined outcome. If we promote ARM to primary and treat it in the same way, the well-defined outcome will be different depending on whether I pick ARM or x86. If I go to fedoraproject.org, the first thing I see is a picture of Gnome Shell with "Fedora 19" written underneath it. How do we deal with that in the ARM case? Add a disclaimer indicating that if you pick this outwardly identical install image for a different architecture, you'll end up with something that looks entirely different? > Almost-but-not-quite Fedora are remixes. Even now Fedora ARM is Fedora, > just a secondary architecture - it's actually more a technical detail > where the builds are done. So we already consider it Fedora! It's not > going to change with ARM being primary. It's not a secondary architecture because it's built on different build infrastructure. It's built on different build infrastructure because it's a secondary architecture, and being a secondary architecture means we don't make the same guarantees to users. >From a practical point of view: how many of the proposed new features for F20 would be absent from the ARM release? How are we going to communicate that? -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
