----- Original Message ----- > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:04:51PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > > > The all or nothing element in the above simply serves to discourage > > further contribution and is harming Fedora's growth. The relentless > > "I don't want ARM to sully the good name of Fedora" is absurd: User > > for user, ARM is considerably more popular than Fedora. Is your > > definition of "Primary" a sacred idea that is responsible for > > Fedora's success? If held dear for too long it will be the well > > known idea responsible for its failure. > > CPUs are an implementation detail. The experience of running Fedora on > ARM should be as close as possible to that of running Fedora on x86. If > we're willing to compromise on that, then what do we actually mean by > "Fedora"? Something that shares a majority of the packages? Well, in > that case any of the spins would also be Fedora, but we draw a > distinction between a spin and the general install media. But spins are Fedora, same as cloud image is still Fedora (and I don't see complaints it does not run Gnome Shell ;-). Desktop spin is one spin of the many spins but we promote it (for several reasons) more than others. So again - I don't see this as a problem with having ARM as PA (I can see other issues like HW availability, build times, resources) but having an ARM spin composed from primary builds with a DE that suits still limited resources on ARM machines - no problem at all. Even blocking desktop release criteria are fulfilled this way as we don't require for example LXDE spin to ship Gnome and KDE ;-). > This isn't some new distinction that I'm pulling out of the air. We've > always had a strong idea of what Fedora is and a defined marketing > message that distinguishes between Fedora and something that's > almost-but-not-quite Fedora. Right now the proposal is for something > that's almost-but-not-quite Fedora to be treated as if it's Fedora, and > I don't think that benefits the public perception of the project. Almost-but-not-quite Fedora are remixes. Even now Fedora ARM is Fedora, just a secondary architecture - it's actually more a technical detail where the builds are done. So we already consider it Fedora! It's not going to change with ARM being primary. Jaroslav > -- > Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
