On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 07:34:06PM -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > At the Fedora 19 Final Go/No-Go Meeting that just occurred, it was > agreed to Go with the Fedora 19 by Fedora QA, development, release > engineering and FPM. 979205 got filed yesterday, which makes it incredibly difficult to install F19 on Macs while keeping OS X. This is rather frustrating, since Fedora's the only distribution with any significant support for running on Apple hardware. There's two problems here: 1) QA apparently don't have any Macs, so it's difficult to test this case 2) Policy says that once the go decision has been made, there's no way to revoke it (1) is something that we really need to solve, because it's clearly unreasonable to expect community members to have a test Mac to install every RC. (2) is stranger. Obviously once an image is released, we're not going to be able to recall it, and we have no history of producing updated install images. But right now we're in a window where we haven't officially shipped anything and are saying we can't fix this issue purely because we've written a policy that says we can't. There are workarounds - users can either perform custom partitioning, wipe their disk entirely or install using beta and then upgrade to final. It's not an utter disaster. However, if it had been caught 12 hours earlier, we'd probably have been willing to delay the release to fix it. I don't know that there's a good answer here. It's unfortunate to ship with somewhat broken support for a widespread class of hardware, especially when Fedora's compatibility with that hardware is a unique selling point. But I don't know that it's worth going through the misery of trying to delay things at this point, especially since the US holidays next week seem to be the kind of thing designed to turn any small slip into weeks. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
