On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 17:07 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:09:57PM -0500, Dan Williams wrote: > > > > On the other hand, having NetworkManager available all the time enables > > > things like management tools to use its API to query system status, > > > instead of guessing it from kernel information and heuristic analysis of > > > some files under /etc. > > > > Exactly. And that's why we want to enhance NetworkManager to make > > people *want* to use it instead of turning it off. > > Features I am missing are: > > - A possibility to make NM ignore an interface from the management > tools, which would allow to normally use NM but disable it if one > wants to configure a device on the command line. Having to disable > interfaces from /etc/sysconfig to be able to use them without NM > interfering makes it more cumbersome to use NM at all. Instead of the previous "unmanaging" of interfaces, future NM will simply handle changes made underneath it with /sbin/ip or anything else by listening to kernel notifications. > - Support NM not interfering with Wi-Fi attack tools such as > aircrack-ng, which might only be possible by ignoring the device > completely or by adding support to change devices into monitor mode > and select static of changing frequencies etc. Probably the features > airmon-ng provides would be necessary. While not very smooth experience, NM will ignore them if you kill wpa_supplicant. > - Allow to create tun/tap devices, especially persisted ones with > permissions for users Support for externally created tun/tap/gre/macvlan/macvtap/veth was added last month, and if you have an ifcfg file with the interface's name, NM can apply/clear the IP configuration on your command. At some point in the near future NM will be able to create all these too. Dan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel