On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:52:54AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > And why is NetworkManager and firewalld in the minimal install? We are on track to replace the "legacy" network and firewall init scripts with these. It's a slow track, but that's the direction. Overall, I'm in favor of having a single code path for network and firewall configuration. As I understand from the NetworkManager developers, a mode where NetworkManager does the basic configuration in the initramfs and then goes away is in development. If that can also hand-off to a simple dhcp client, I think we're in pretty good shape for the simple case. Here's my RFE https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=863515 Firewalld needs a *lot* more work in this area. Here's _that_ RFE: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876683 As discussed before the F18 release, firewalld was initially proposed as a "default" for F18, but actually crept in as mandatory, since Anaconda uses it. One can remove it after the install, or in kickstart post. And you're absolutely right to focus in this, as these two packages are definitely the cause of most of the growth in minimal, and pull in most of the odd stuff that doesn't feel like it belongs at that level. So, in addition to the above, reducing/splitting the dependencies would be valuable. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
