On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 01:41:16PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > So, the converse is that as actual workloads move to VMs (let alone > > cloud), the host systems become a special case, and the "normal" case > > for a server tends to become much more simple: either a single interface > > probably with fixed-address DHCP, or in most complicated cases several > > interfaces on specific networks known by convention. > That's a big assumption, just because the hypervisor is more complex does > not mean vms get simpler (this is the same faulty reasoning that vmware > made a few years past when it told everyone that esxi would replace bioses > and systems would be reduced to their simplest expression — read give us > your money, not to Microsoft or Red Hat). In fact I am quite certain vm > complexity is a direct factor of management tools maturity, and people > will continue to deploy the most complex configurations they can, as long > as the tools let them. No one wants to delegate anything when the problem > can be solved without delegation. I'm not sure it's the "same reasoning" because I have no idea how what I said relates to replacing the BIOS wiith ESXi, but it's certainly the case that VMware has been hugely successful. And part of that success is because addressing the _problem_ of increased complexity on the individual servers. The situation I described above is a feature, not a side-effect. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel