On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On May 21, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > >> 1. Connect Automatically may work as designed, but it's a flawed > >> design. It makes no sense to have an admin user enable a network > >> through the Gnome shell toolbar icon (Network icon, flip the switch > >> from Off to On), reboot, and then have no network. The widespread > >> convention for all other such UI switches is that they're sticky. I > >> don't have to go make them behave sticky by checking something five > >> layers deep. Something I wouldn't have even considered exists as it's > >> apparently unique, I've never encountered an automaticity option on > >> Windows or OS X. It's a bizarre convention. Off means off, make that > >> sticky through reboots. On means on, make that sticky through reboots. > > > > The question of whether it should be *system wide* is a different > > question from whether it should *persist*. > > I'm just trying to figure out the simple case for now: single user who is an admin. I'm experiencing undesirable behavior. If this simple and common case isn't working out well, then I don't expect the more complex cases to work out much better. And as an ape who wears pants, I try to limit how confused I get in a given time frame. > > > > > > >> 3. The naming convention of the interfaces is confusing. Sometimes > >> it's ifcfg-en5s0 and sometimes ifcfg-p5p1 for the same interface and I > >> don't know why. > > > > That's nothing to do with NM, it's the 'persistent device naming' stuff > > at a lower level. Up to F18 this was being done by biosdevname, which > > gave the 'p5p1' naming; in F19 it's being done by systemd, which gives > > the 'en5s0' naming. There was an effort to ensure they at least both > > called the most common case 'em1', but beyond that, they have different > > naming schemes. Life's fun, huh. This kinda sucks, but it's not NM's > > fault. There was discussion of the issue on this list earlier in the f19 > > cycle. > > Is Gnome > Settings > Network leveraging Network Manager? If so, it's using a different naming convention than systemd, and it seems the two are involved in some non-deterministic confusion. Yes, it does. What's likely happening is that your saved network connections from before F19 have the name they were originally given, like "System p5p1". If the ifcfg file has no "NAME=xxx" key, the name is taken directly from the ifcfg file name. I bet you'll find you've got /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p5p1 on your system with HWADDR matching your en5s0 interface. That name is never changed after the connection config is created; NM does not and will never rename your configuration files underneath you. Now that systemd has renamed your interfaces, that name no longer matches the connection configuration in /etc. Feel free to go through /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ and rename files as you see fit. If you don't like the interface name part, it's perfectly fine to rename it to "ifcfg-Ethernet" or "ifcfg-Blue_Cow". Dan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
