On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On May 16, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Dan Williams <dcbw@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 15:44 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> On May 16, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rebooted. I still have the problem. Wired connection is Off on each reboot. This happens even if I regress to the 3.9.0 kernel that's used on the Live media, which works on every boot. Flummoxed.
>>>
>>> I found part of the problem:
>>> [root@F19 network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-ens5
>>> ….
>>> ONBOOT=no
>>>
>>>
>>> But why is it set to no? Once set to yes, system reboots with p5p1 enabled.
>>
>> Either it was set to "no" during installation, or something set it to
>> "no" after the install. NetworkManager won't ever change that value by
>> itself. Something else (like the GUI, or directly editing that file
>> with VIM/emacs/etc) had to change it.
>
> It was set to no during installation, user unaware of this.
>
> The Gnome shell > Settings > Network > Wired > gear button > Identity > Connect automatically checkbox is what affects the ONBOOT= value. A similarly named checkbox is checked in anaconda on Fedora 18, but is unchecked if the cable is unplugged in anaconda on Fedora 19. So the resulting installation gets an ONBOOT=no and stays that way until the user finds, five layers deep, this weird Connect automatically checkbox.
>
> But this bug has brought me to a plethora of buggy behavior in the Gnome Settings Network panel, so maybe the misery was worth it.
*THIS*. *This* kind of thing is why NetworkManager remains unusable
for production network configuratoin. The very powerful and flexible
shell scripting written into the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts
infrastructure is neither pro0perly displayed by nor manageable by the
NetworkManager gui's. It is not even a good GUI becuase it violates
over half of the open source GUI guidelines published by Eric Raymond
in his essay on GU's, "The Luxury of Ignorance".
One of my biggest steps to stabilize any server or production
environments is the script that puts this in place
# For /etc/sysocnfig/network, and any
/etc/sysoncig/network-scripts/ifcfg-[nic].cfg
NM_CONTROLLED=no
At this point, even if NetworkManager manages to finally be upgraded
to supported the most basic of options such as being turned off or on
for speicific nodes, trunking, KVM bridging, or pair bonding, there is
another five years of getting it written into the installers and
deployment tools for Anaconda and tools like VMware-tools or
libvirt-manager before it's generally useful.
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