On Tue, 2013-05-14 at 22:21 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On May 14, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Do those 'other platforms' use sendmail? I don't think many other > > distros ship it by default any more. Debian installs exim by default, > > for instance. > > No. But this one does therefore it might be nice, since it's installed *and* enabled, if the necessary incantation of .localdomain were automatically added for the user if they use a single word hostname, rather than cause 2+ minute startup delays as a totally non-obvious consequence of their lack of knowledge. > > > > > > >> And if I use it, I end up with worse problems in that more services > >> have long delays rather than just sendmail and sm-client, and I can no > >> longer do ssh chris@f19q.local but rather I have to type > >> chris@f19qlocaldomain. > > > > I know you said that, but as I wrote in the bug, I can't reproduce that > > at all. I use foo.localdomain hostnames, I don't have startup delays, > > and avahi foo.local still works. > > Yeah something hasn't ever been right for me with Fedora and mDNS. Fedora clients refuse to resolve each other, but will resolve to a Mac, and Macs find Fedoras. Example: > [root@f19q ~]# scp kernel-3.10.0-0.rc1.git2.1.fc20.x86_64.rpm chris@ming.local:/users/chris/desktop/ > ssh: Could not resolve hostname ming.local: Name or service not known > lost connection > > The same VM I can ssh to from a Mac, from Fedora 18 I get: > [root@f18slocaldomain ~]# ssh chris@f19q.local > ssh: Could not resolve hostname f19q.local: Name or service not known > > It's supposedly zeroconf for a reason, so it shouldn't be this difficult. > > > > > > >> The only two things I change from the stock installation is set the > >> hostname, and 'systemctl enable sshd' and 'systemctl start sshd'. > >> That's it. > > > > Are you setting the hostname during installation or post-install? > > I've tried both, but when I rename it I'm using 'hostnamectl set-hostname XXX' as I'm not seeing anything obvious in Gnome that does this. > > > Chris Murphy > $ host brain-Desktop brain-Desktop has address 192.168.254.254 but in desktop: $ hostnamectl Static hostname: brain-Desktop.localdomain All works well. -- Best Regards, Igor Gnatenko -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel