On May 14, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Do those 'other platforms' use sendmail? I don't think many other > distros ship it by default any more. Debian installs exim by default, > for instance. No. But this one does therefore it might be nice, since it's installed *and* enabled, if the necessary incantation of .localdomain were automatically added for the user if they use a single word hostname, rather than cause 2+ minute startup delays as a totally non-obvious consequence of their lack of knowledge. > >> And if I use it, I end up with worse problems in that more services >> have long delays rather than just sendmail and sm-client, and I can no >> longer do ssh chris@f19q.local but rather I have to type >> chris@f19qlocaldomain. > > I know you said that, but as I wrote in the bug, I can't reproduce that > at all. I use foo.localdomain hostnames, I don't have startup delays, > and avahi foo.local still works. Yeah something hasn't ever been right for me with Fedora and mDNS. Fedora clients refuse to resolve each other, but will resolve to a Mac, and Macs find Fedoras. Example: [root@f19q ~]# scp kernel-3.10.0-0.rc1.git2.1.fc20.x86_64.rpm chris@ming.local:/users/chris/desktop/ ssh: Could not resolve hostname ming.local: Name or service not known lost connection The same VM I can ssh to from a Mac, from Fedora 18 I get: [root@f18slocaldomain ~]# ssh chris@f19q.local ssh: Could not resolve hostname f19q.local: Name or service not known It's supposedly zeroconf for a reason, so it shouldn't be this difficult. > >> The only two things I change from the stock installation is set the >> hostname, and 'systemctl enable sshd' and 'systemctl start sshd'. >> That's it. > > Are you setting the hostname during installation or post-install? I've tried both, but when I rename it I'm using 'hostnamectl set-hostname XXX' as I'm not seeing anything obvious in Gnome that does this. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel