On Sex, 2013-05-03 at 07:13 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Qui, 2013-05-02 at 15:22 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 15:01 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > >> > On Sáb, 2013-04-27 at 15:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > > this one is no longer relevant and if there would be a karma-option > >> > > in koji i would have given as i rolled out 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64 > >> > > in production > >> > > >> > But 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64 is not pushed to updates-testing . > >> > Meanwhile kernel-3.8.8-100.fc17 has reached the stable karma threshold > >> > and will be pushed to the stable updates repository . > >> > >> I think the kernel team has intentionally stopped pushing things to > >> -testing so quickly for F(N-1) because the karma doesn't come in fast > >> enough; if they keep pushing builds to updates-testing as they get done, > >> then they *never* get enough karma to go stable before they get > >> obsoleted by the next one. So they're letting kernels sit in > >> updates-testing for longer in the hopes they'll at least get something > >> pushed stable. > > > >> I try to do f-e-k for F(N-1) regularly but I'm not doing a great job of > >> it lately :( We definitely need more people to do it. Thinking about it, > >> the problem may be that people running F(N-1) are typically more > >> 'conservative' users who don't want to enable updates-testing. That's > >> certainly the case for me; my real F(N-1) systems are my servers, and I > >> don't want to run updates-testing on those, obviously. I have to use a > >> VM to do karma runs. > > > > > > OK, also is not normal the number of updates in upstream . > > Anyway could someone give karma for a bunch of security updates ? > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6999/kernel-3.8.11-100.fc17 > > It's become enough of a problem that if we don't start getting more > testers on the oldest > release, the kernel team is probably going to break it's rule of not > allowing the kernel > maintainers give karma to kernel updates. So yes, more help on the > oldest release is > much needed. bodhi - 2013-05-02 23:02:24 This update has reached the stable karma threshold and will be pushed to the stable updates repository bodhi - 2013-05-03 02:00:46 This update has been pushed to testing kernel was approved before be pushed to testing , will be push to stable or not ? Thanks, -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel