On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 15:01 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Sáb, 2013-04-27 at 15:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > this one is no longer relevant and if there would be a karma-option > > in koji i would have given as i rolled out 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64 > > in production > > But 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64 is not pushed to updates-testing . > Meanwhile kernel-3.8.8-100.fc17 has reached the stable karma threshold > and will be pushed to the stable updates repository . I think the kernel team has intentionally stopped pushing things to -testing so quickly for F(N-1) because the karma doesn't come in fast enough; if they keep pushing builds to updates-testing as they get done, then they *never* get enough karma to go stable before they get obsoleted by the next one. So they're letting kernels sit in updates-testing for longer in the hopes they'll at least get something pushed stable. I try to do f-e-k for F(N-1) regularly but I'm not doing a great job of it lately :( We definitely need more people to do it. Thinking about it, the problem may be that people running F(N-1) are typically more 'conservative' users who don't want to enable updates-testing. That's certainly the case for me; my real F(N-1) systems are my servers, and I don't want to run updates-testing on those, obviously. I have to use a VM to do karma runs. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel