On 03/13/2013 11:46 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > This brings the question, how do you do your update? I actually do updates via the package kit nag thing that pops up from the messaging tray, and I rarely pay attention to the list of packages. I just don't have the time to bother, and if that's the default experience (and it is at least for GNOME desktop users) I want to experience it so I understand it, if that makes sense. > I know I'm not he average user but I update via yum and one thing I > always watch out for are kernel update, mostly because it means I'll > have to reboot my machine sometime after that. > So when I reboot and something does not come up, I will likely pretty > quickly reboot on an older kernel to see if that's what has changed (I > must confess, this is a guess since I don't remember when is the last > time something broke on one of my machine with a kernel update). I'm not a great troubleshooter, unfortunately! I'm trying to use Fedora to design stuff, not to play around with the OS. :) It's been a really long time since a kernel update broke something on my system as well. I think the last time might have been around F14, there had been a kernel update that broke suspend on my Thinkpad x61. A fix came out shortly after. Anyway, the infrequency of the kernel breaking me (and maybe we are both really lucky for this) is probably another reason why I think 'check network manager' before I think 'try another kernel' for this example situation. ~m -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel