On 03/12/2013 07:24 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > I am saying this because I agree. To me the proposal (not the original > but some point in the the 500 ms boot time "ideal" ) seemed very much > a welded shut view. And as someone who has to worked on welded shut > computers for asthetic reasons.. it brings out the fighting urge in > me. Did you guys actually read the blog post? Is aesthetics cited in any of the reasons for hiding the menu? No, it's not. These were the reasons I cited in favor of the proposal to hide the menu: "- Changing video modes makes the screen flash unnecessarily. Not displaying the boot menu by default would eliminate some of this flashing. The video mode changing also screws up how our X setup works and results in unnecessary bugs for users. - We used to suppress the boot menu by default in earlier releases and its suppression didn’t cause major problems. - There’s other ways for the user to indicate wanting to enter the menu besides boot-time keypresses – other OSes have methods to enter these menus by rebooting from a running system (systemd is working on this) or automatically loading the menu when an error condition is encountered. - Not listening for keypresses doesn’t probe USB, meaning not waiting for keypresses will make boot even faster since we won’t have to load/probe USB. - (Nobody explicitly stated this, but) Displaying information geared towards power users by default is intimidating / confusing to less-knowledgeable users." Please be fair. ~m -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
