Lennart, For better or worse Vincent Untz had people express themselves on systemd at FOSDEM, and pretty much everyone thought you were doing great. I can understand your regrets that it was less the case for your GNOME 3 friends, but that should not overshadow this great achievement of the systemd team. Given the scope of your work, I don't think anyone would have predicted a week ago systemd could attain such a complete adhesion. That is something to remember and rejoice on. -- Nicolas Mailhot -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel