Re: the need of "Offline Updates"

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Am 05.02.2013 16:58, schrieb Jochen Schmitt:
>> the same for updates of services:
>>
>> nothing would happen on a webserver with httpd if it would not be
>> restarted at package-update which goes wrong if you are using PHP
>> and packages of the dep-tree are not yet all updated which fails
>> PHP to load, without the hardcoded restart httpd would happily
>> continue to run with the old php-package from memory
> 
> Question: Does it makes sense to collect all services which should
> be restarted during the update process and restart the services after
> all packages was updated?

it would make MUCH more sense and if you are there
and have removed the condrestart-crap from all of
the SPEC-files you are in a position to make a
global setting not restart any service which is
what i want in case of a dist-upgrade

* httpd is running
* if it crashes -> Restart=always, RestartSec=1
* at all the better option as offline-upgrade
* without restart services mostg things are running perfect
* the upgrade takes 5 minutes
* before restart i want manually verify grub-config and do cleanups
* this cleanups take two minutes
* after that i reboot the machine in the new system

i am doing this since many years on many setups and
rebuild all for me critical packages to prevent
the restarts - BUT i still do not get this poor
decision in a naive way mangle all SPEC-files



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