Re: the need of "Offline Updates"

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Am 05.02.2013 16:49, schrieb Jochen Schmitt:
> On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 10:30:50AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> 
>> 2) Modern Windows updates are safer than RPM, speaking broadly

jokingly?

show me a upgrade of production machines from F9 to F17
without end in a inconsistent system on windows - you
can't, i have been there

windows is missing anything like transaction-checks
tp prevent one "package" is overwriting files of
a different one, has no package-deps over the
complete system

tune2fs 1.42.3 (14-May-2012)
Filesystem volume name:   /
Last mounted on:          /
Filesystem UUID:          918f24a7-bc8e-4da5-8a23-8800d510442
Filesystem features:      has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg
sparse_super large_file uninit_bg dir_nlink
Filesystem created:       Mon Aug 18 06:48:05 2008

3.7.3-101.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jan 18 17:40:57 UTC 2013

and as you can see above this was installed with F9 in 2008
on ext3 and is now F17 with ext4 and 100% as clean as any
fresh install (one of more than 20 machines from the same
golden master)

and yes, i even survived dist-upgrades with power-loss in
the middle at home, no problem to cleanup the dupes and
finish the upgrade

simply not possible with windows

> That is more a QA related topic. On Fedora 17 I have several times the expirience,
> that an update didn't worked well due the existence of broken dependencies.

which makes the update SAFER because the deps have to be fixed
and a update is installed clean or not at all



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