Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

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On Tuesday, January 29, 2013, Olav Vitters wrote:
>MATE developers actually have GNOME git accounts now.
 
I know that.

>GNOME classic is not the same as a fallback mode.
 
I am skeptical. 
 
> MATE did not have that much development, nor that many developers if you
compare it to the amount of work done between a GNOME 2.x release.

     Paid full time employees vs non paid hobbyists.

 >Could you reference the bugs that GNOME 3 has problems with systemd? 
 >Because it works fine for me.

You know how search RHBZ?

> Is it really that scary for you guys to think about something else besides
> Gnome 3 and KDE?
>
> Not enough support? Then step up and quit whining. You know how to help,
> Red Hat employees. Don't be selfish. This is Fedora not RHEL. This is a
> community based distribution not Red Hats playground. Please feel free to
> correct me if I'm wrong.

I suggest you actually do some work instead of showing that you dislike
Red Hat employees.
 
> Done. 

> Everyone loves to dance around the fact about what Fedora is or isn't.
>
> This isn't one persons decision and its not 2003.
>
> Get with the times. Your projects failed. Sure a lot of people like it.
> Then again a lot of people don't. And we wonder why there are less people
> using Fedora.

You say "projects": which projects exactly?

> And then we wonder why MATE and Cinnamon got the most press coverage in
> Fedora 18 and why there has been a huge user spike in the last 30 days. It
> hasn't been because of systemd, Gnome 3.6, and Anaconda 18. You are on
> serious drugs if you believe that.

>"serious drugs"

>Quit with attacking people, then maybe people will actually listen. At
>the moment you are very vague and unspecific (e.g. bug references, not
>vague claims). The only think you make clear is that you're angry.

Nobody has been listening for the last 3 years.

Dan


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