What to express that firewalld is not ready to be the default firewall. We believe it is a step in the right direction, but lacks documentation, migration support, and the crucial need for permanent use of direct rules on restart. We did attempt to put into the Fedora distribution the sshdfilter software but there was no way to do it within the existing structure as it required modifications to other packages. So we see the need, but we can not see how to use what is currently released. What the user does not understand, including administrators, that gets in the way of usage will be disabled. Administrators will not migrate to this until they can clearly see how to do safe implementations. For Fedora 18 we plan not to use firewalld until we can be confident that we can implement a safe fire wall and know how it is working. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel