On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:16 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:06 +0100, drago01 wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 11:15 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >> >> > Btw. Thanksgiving conflict is known, but we decided not to move > >> >> > Go/No-Go to Wednesday because of limited time for testing, let me > >> >> > know in case of (strong) objections. > >> >> > >> >> I really think having this meeting during the second largest US holiday > >> >> is a very poor idea, especially since almost everybody working on > >> >> anything we're likely to decide no-go for is in the US, as are many of > >> >> the people whose views will be needed. > >> >> > >> >> Also note that even if they can show up /sometime on Thanksgiving day/, > >> >> which is unlikely enough to begin with, many if not most families > >> >> celebrate with a mid-afternoon meal. That's right where this meeting is > >> >> scheduled for. > >> > > >> > I was one who slightly favoured Thursday. As Jaroslav said, the > >> > reasoning is that this week the extra day could be *really important*, > >> > with the timing of the fedup work. We are aiming to build RC1 today; > >> > realistically speaking the chances that fedup works perfectly first time > >> > are not high, so I was figuring on needing at least an RC2. Given that, > >> > Wednesday seemed over-optimistic to do the meeting. I think it's > >> > understood that we won't make a controversial Go call on Thursday; it'll > >> > be either a clear Go, otherwise slip. > >> > >> What about Friday? > > > > I think we agreed previously that Thursday was as late as we could go > > while giving time for staging and so on. QA could do go/no-go 10 minutes > > before release, but other groups need more time, so it's up to them to > > decide how far we can push it. > > Does one day really make that much of a difference? Lets just slip one > day for the beta (release on Wednesday instead of Tuesday) then. Well, we already 'pushed it' one day to Thursday permanently for this cycle - it used to be Wednesday. Friday gives only about a business day and a half, plus the weekend, for whatever has to happen between sign-off and release. The cycle is weekly by policy - we don't do one-day slips... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
