On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 15.11.12 00:56, Lennart Poettering (mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > >> I think a good way to approach this is by looking for the interesting >> usecases for a minimal installation: >> >> A) Containers >> B) VMs >> C) Bare-Metal Servers >> D) Paranoid people (not relevant) >> E) Embedded (out of focus for Fedora) >> ... anything else? >> >> I list A and B as separate items, since they have different needs. For >> A you don't want SSH or bootloader (the bootloader is not necessary, as >> the container manager will directly invoke init, and you can login via >> local console). For B you you need a bootloader and probably SSH. >> >> I think it would make sense to focus on the intersection of installation >> set for these usecases. And hence: >> >> No SSH. No Boot loader. And definitely not Sendmail. > > Also, no kernel and no kmod for A, as that is provided by the container > host. > > Lennart > > -- > Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel It's been a while since I did anything with containers (LXC) but as I recall they're pretty much unmanageable without being able to ssh into them. But yes, I do think the bare-assed minimum viable Fedora is an LXC guest that one can get a console of some kind on and install packages into via yum. I'd even be willing to give up vim for nano. I don't need bash-completion or locate or man pages. ;-) -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb; Computational Journalism Publishers Workbench: http://znmeb.github.com/Computational-Journalism-Publishers-Workbench/ How the Hell can the lion sleep with all those people singing "A weem oh way!" at the top of their lungs? -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
