On 2012-11-11 16:42, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Kevin Kofler
<kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Panu Matilainen wrote:
Reverting mini-debuginfo would require a mass-rebuild which is
hardly
going to happen at this point of F18 no matter what you think of
the
feature.
I've seen mass rebuilds rushed through in less time than what we
have from
now until the current F18 release target date. And it's the most
effective
way to hit the target size of the DVD.
I really don't understand the cavalier approach to bloat around
here. A
feature which increases the size of the whole distro should NOT be
approved,
period. We need to get the live images back to CD size and treat
every
feature which endangers that as a showstopper. Hardware resources
are not
infinite, we cannot afford wasting them in this way.
FWIW, I also think we need to reopen the discussion of building
Fedora with
-Os rather than -O2.
Size matters,
Kevin Kofler
+1, although I really think the relevant size targets are 700 MB for
CD and 4 GB for DVD / USB stick. You need the 700 MB for machines
that
can't boot a USB stick or DVD. Personally, I think OpenOffice /
LibreOffice shouldn't be on live media. You can make a really nice
GNOME or KDE Live CD if you free up the humongous amount of space
that
so-called productivity suite occupies. ;-)
They already aren't. Half the point of going to 1GB would be to include
them.
Look, Johann already pointed out, the relevant SIG for each spin owns
the spin size. It's not a topic for devel@ kibbitzing and voting. I
can't stop you posting +1s, but you're wasting your time if you're not a
member of the relevant spin SIG. As seems to need pointing out so often,
this isn't a democracy, it's a do-ocracy. You don't get anything done by
posting indignant messages on mailing lists.
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