On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Panu Matilainen wrote: >> Reverting mini-debuginfo would require a mass-rebuild which is hardly >> going to happen at this point of F18 no matter what you think of the >> feature. > > I've seen mass rebuilds rushed through in less time than what we have from > now until the current F18 release target date. And it's the most effective > way to hit the target size of the DVD. > > I really don't understand the cavalier approach to bloat around here. A > feature which increases the size of the whole distro should NOT be approved, > period. We need to get the live images back to CD size and treat every > feature which endangers that as a showstopper. Hardware resources are not > infinite, we cannot afford wasting them in this way. > > FWIW, I also think we need to reopen the discussion of building Fedora with > -Os rather than -O2. > > Size matters, > Kevin Kofler +1, although I really think the relevant size targets are 700 MB for CD and 4 GB for DVD / USB stick. You need the 700 MB for machines that can't boot a USB stick or DVD. Personally, I think OpenOffice / LibreOffice shouldn't be on live media. You can make a really nice GNOME or KDE Live CD if you free up the humongous amount of space that so-called productivity suite occupies. ;-) By the way, I am moving my computational journalism tool set into beta this week, and I am going to recommend that users install Linux from a "net install CD" where available. In case you're wondering, it works on Linux Mint 13, Mageia 2, Fedora 17 and 18, openSUSE 12.2, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and maybe Ubuntu 12.10. I love net installers - they take up about 200 MB, they download quickly and you don't have to run a stinking update of hundreds of packages after the install. The down side is that it takes longer to get the packages installed, but eliminating the second install makes that moot IMHO. > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb; Computational Journalism Publishers Workbench: http://znmeb.github.com/Computational-Journalism-Publishers-Workbench/ How the Hell can the lion sleep with all those people singing "A weem oh way!" at the top of their lungs? -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
