Re: Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27

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On 11/09/2012 09:35 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:13:32AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:

As far as Anaconda reverted in the future, I'm confused as to
when/where this became a requirement.

I think he's saying this because:

1) Features have a section for contingency plans.
2) In this particular case, we're slipping schedule because the NewUI
    feature has a point where there stopped being a contingency plan.  We
    passed that point before being aware of all of these issues that need to
    be fixed in order to release Fedora.

Being stricter about having viable contingency plans for features like
this (ones that require coordination and can potentially block us if they
aren't done/done correctly) is one possible way to address this type of
situation in the future.

Others are to alter the "time-based" release philosophy for certain
features (We are going to have Feature X in Fedora 19.  If it isn't ready,
we're going to slip the release date until it is done.)  To only let in
a feature with no contingency plan only when it is code complete and can be
evaluated outside of the Fedora tree first (anaconda devs state that they do
not actually have the manpower to implement this style of solution).

-Toshio

- Note: I considered adding "have a longer release cycle" to the list of
   alternatives but it's not clear that we wouldn't still get into this
   situation (FESCo/releng/QA finding out at beta freeze that Feature X lacks
   certain capabilities that are considered essential while the team
   responsible for the feature had considered that it was something that
   could safely be put off until the next release.  Being unable to revert
   the feature at that point and so having to code the missing capabilities
   on a rushed schedule at that point.)




In that context the plan would have had to be do all the "bring the code base forward into the next Fedora environment" work twice.

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