Re: Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27

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On 11/08/2012 05:30 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 8 November 2012 10:20, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Your problem is that you are assuming a lot of things without actually
doing any legwork to find out what anaconda does. Anaconda does a lot
of probing of hardware which changes when kernels change. Anaconda
requires changes when dracut changes APIs. Every release requires
changes in what is blacklisted and what is not blacklisted. It
requires dealing with the usual multiple changes in python apis and
such. It has other changes due to EFI or secure boot or other
features. None of them are trivial and doing them in parallel is
usually not possible.

Not that your response is relate to who's responsible for making those
changes, but is that not a fundamental flaw in the installer and it's
design?
Dude.. that is just reality.  EVERY installer out there has to deal
with the fact that nearly every motherboard, BIOS, EFI, and OEM does
something to the hardware which makes it a one-off in some way that
the installer has to deal with. Even Apple hardware ends up with a
long list of if/then somewhere because mother board runs will end up
changing something somewhere that needs to be caught because the old
code won't work there.

The flaw is that computers are hard. People who want easy should just
stick to installing to virtual machines (even then you end up with a
long list of exceptions somewhere).


Bro...

It should be sufficient to just tell/point the installer to use new packages while still retain the same functionality/support as it did for F17 ( unless of course there is some serious fundamental design flaw in the installer which makes him dependent on same package set he's installing )

JBG
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