On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 21:07 -0600, Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) wrote: > > Oh my goodness. This is the highest amount of slippage I've seen in > > quite some time. What is wrong with Fedora? > > The new anaconda UI and related features are more or less entirely the > cause of the slip. Secure boot support is also not done yet (waiting on > the signature for shim to get sorted out by legal), though I don't know > whether FESCo yet absolutely decided that has to be in for Beta. > > > The slippage is getting worse each and every single release. I love > > Fedora and all, but this is absolutely ridiculous... > > It isn't, if you look at the facts, the slips for the last few releases > have been fairly similar and there's no pattern of them getting longer. > This release is special because of the major anaconda change, which it's > turning out after the fact could have been organized better (hindsight > is 20/20). > Has anyone (FESCo) considered pushing Anaconda rewrite to F19 and ship F18 w/ the old Anaconda? I just tried the latest TC and while Anaconda did give me a working F18 installation, the experience is still rather raw (Can't say the I met major bugs, though). ... With all the testing resources pushing toward Anaconda, its very likely that breakage in (many) other components may go unnoticed. - Gilboa -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel