Le Lun 5 novembre 2012 12:12, Jaroslav Reznik a écrit : > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> Le Lun 5 novembre 2012 10:45, Dodji Seketeli a écrit : >> Someone wrote in this thread that Gnome updates were painful in >> branched. >> Well they are horrific in Rawhide. If there was some effort to make >> them >> only painful in Rawhide they would not be horrific in branched. (this >> is >> called a 'virtuous circle'). >> >> IMHO it was a huge mistake to synchronise Fedora releases with GNOME >> releases instead of synchronising Fedora branch times with GNOME >> release >> times. That's idiotic and means there is no time Fedora-side to do >> any QA >> and fixing before pushing a new GNOME release to users. > > I think there's some sync between GNOME and Fedora releases - I already > proposed F19 schedule - 3.7.90 is a week before branching, and before > Alpha, 3.8.0 release precedes Features 100% complete and thus it goes > to Beta. Or are you talking about having final even before branching? > The current process allows us to influence (in some extend) development > of GNOME based on Alpha release etc. And yeah, it's probably not enough. You proposal may work *if* GNOME people take care to respect it. Otherwise — yes the nuclear option is to only distribute GNOME releases that were ready at branch time and could be stabilised during all the Fedora test releases. It may seem excessive but the current it-says-it-is-stable-push-it-to-users-without-testing policy has not been good for both of the projects I think. -- Nicolas Mailhot -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel