On Fri, 07.09.12 11:54, Jesse Keating (jkeating@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > On 09/07/2012 11:48 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >Humm. I don't agree with this. As long as F18 is unreleased Rawhide will > >be basically untested and I also wonder what testing it at this point > >would bring, given that it right now is mostly F18 and very far from > >F19, so why not test the real F18 where we need all testing focussed > >anyway? > > Fedora 18 is basically closed for new feature work, and instead the > focus needs to be on integration of the existing feature set and > bugfixes. But as you state there is a large amount of time before > F18 releases, which means new feature work would have to stall out > for months. Instead, new feature work can begin for F19 and get > ahead of the game. That's why F18 and F19 are divergent. That's > why we went from a single line of development to two. I totally understand that. However this is not really how many people work. The assumption that everybody actually wants to get started asap with new feature development is simply wrong. I tend to focus on stabilization and bugfixes for quite some time before I switch back to feature development, and I actually believe most people should do it that way. And because I do it that way I want to keep F18 and F19 in sync for as long as I can. I want to decide on my own when we are ready and when I want to have F19 diverge from F18, and it shouldn't be implied that this is immediately done when pre-alpha is branched. Or to put this in other words: The default workflow should be that package developers focus on fixing/polishing the upcoming release. The exception should be that package developers immediately forget about the branch and focus immediately on new features. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel