On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:07:08PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/18/2012 01:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:10:32AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 06:49:43PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >> > >>> You're asserting that dbus-daemon etc cannot be restarted, but without > >>> saying why. > >> > >> Because designing an asynchronous messaging bus that can be restarted > >> without losing any messages is a difficult problem. > > > > If only Red Hat was involved in writing one ... > > > > Oh wait, what's this? https://qpid.apache.org/ > > Unless, you can change d-bus to do this while retaining the features, it > isn't very relevant to the discussion. What we shouldn't do is break things further by making almost all updates require a reboot. I believe there is or was an effort to replace dbus by something AMQP-based. However I can't find that right now. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into Xen guests. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-p2v -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel