On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 02:24:35AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Michael scherer wrote: > > For the record, UEFI based motherboard would likely have a graphical > > interface, so no blueish DOS-like commandline thing. > > Of course, that also permit endless graphical customisation. > > See for example > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLwHKHqBitc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCfRWrCj3lc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gDWyayfBNs > > ( time spent to search that on youtube, around 30 seconds ) > > > > And there is also variation of the interface per vendor, just look on the > > various ASUS motherboard interfaces. > > WTF, graphical firmware?! What happened to the KISS principle? :-( I am quite amazed, you seem to discover the recent trend in motherboards. ( cause yes, such cards are already on the market, a coworker do have one and the pc is just 1 year old ). And there is graphical interface I suppose to display shiny reports ( temperature, fan speed ), to display help with a decent formatting language, or to show things like "location of card on the motherboard". I would even imagine a system where you could download updates directly from the interface, permiting to have 1 update interface to test, instead of doing it on the various windows version ( so less QA to do for OEMs, ie cheaper ). > This also shows that we really need Free PC firmware, it's becoming more and > more of its own operating system. I assume that you never used anything than a PC to say that, because Open Firmware bundled a forth interpreter, was able to run arbitrary program, etc. Or if you take a recent Apple laptop, you would see that rEFIt can give you access to underlying EFI, letting you run arbitrary sotware, go on network ( there is ping, traceroute ), among others. And there is already free pc firmware : http://www.coreboot.org/Welcome_to_coreboot > On the other hand, this should make the firmware less "scary" to users and > make it more viable to require them to make tweaks there. I would place less hope in interfaces designed by low level coders whose main priority is to ship ASAP to take over the market by speed. Neither would I think that fiddling with hardware settings with a graphical interface would be much safer than with text interfaces. I doubt that "enable DMA overcommit on shadow memory" would be less scary displayed in a graphical interface rather than in pure text. I also doubt that documentation would be so much easier to understand due to UEFI. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel