On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 11:49 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > On 05/12/2012 09:51 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:00:48AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > > >> So the set of people we'd be inconveniencing is exactly the set of > >> people with no bandwidth and the inability to boot from anything larger > >> than a CD. > > > > Not only that - the people who have no bandwidth, the inability to boot > > from anything larger than a CD and no USB ports that can be bootstrapped > > from a bootloader sitting on a CD or floppy. > > > > USB has been required by Microsoft's logo program since 1999 and was > > effectively ubiquitous on Pentium 2 before that, so the set of hardware > > we're ruling out is at least 13 years old and more realistically > > probably 15. We've already dropped support for x86 hardware that was in > > production more recently than that. > > > Reality can differ from the press releases. I have two running machines > that contradict the conclusions above. Instead of 13 or 15 years, > such an effective cutoff would be closer to about 8 years. I consider > that to be uncomfortably young to be declared obsolete, especially > when the declaration is issued at the end of a release cycle instead of > at the beginning. > > The most important issue in this thread is ability to boot from USB2.0. No, it isn't. mjg59 wrote: "the inability to boot from anything larger than a CD and no USB ports that can be bootstrapped from a bootloader sitting on a CD or floppy." So you're talking past each other. You are assuming that direct boot from USB is the minimum. Matthew reckons bootstrapping from a CD or floppy is fine. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
