On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Al Dunsmuir wrote: > On Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 4:15:53 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Andreas Tunek wrote: >>> I do not see anything in the f17 feature page describing any graphical >>> configuration tool. But I also agree that gui configuratio is needed, >>> otherwise it will probably be really difficult to do things like connect >>> via ssh or share via rygel or other dlna server. >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD#Graphical_Configuration_Tool >> "firewall-config is the main configuration tool" > > It also says "is"... but in spite of the use of the present tense, > that tool is not available on the Fedora 17 Beta.? Negative. I speculate many or most people disable firewalld. This was an explicit recommendation during Virtualization Test Day. So it's not just the config tool that isn't getting as much testing as it otherwise would. For the LiveCD, it needs to be a GUI configurable, and work, because firewalld is enabled by default. If reversion is going to occur back to iptables and its Firewall tool, slipping that in a final RC seems risky. That combo hasn't been tested since early alpha. And in effect neither firewall package is getting nearly as much testing before final. I feel that firewalld's updated man pages and GUI config tool need to appear by final TC1, or reversion should occur. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel