On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:10 AM, drago01 wrote: >> > Interesting. People I know just using them (tablets) as "toys" to play > some causal games, surf the net & read mails. They go back to there > laptops / desktops to do anything beyond that. Most people don't. It's important to understand most of us on this list aren't most people. Toys? FAA Approves IPad for Flight Navigation http://www.tabletedia.com/news/2820.html Here's a quote from a doctor: "Even if you’re not at home, you can quickly pick up your phone, view the EKG, and take care of patients remotely." http://www.imedicalapps.com/2011/12/apple-top-iphone-ipad-medical-apps-2011/ This is doing 2 minute google searches... People read books on mobile devices. Computers? Ick. I'm not reading a book on a computer. It's unpleasant. I can't read on a mobile device because I need a browser with an average of 34 tabs. Most people lack my lunacy. > >> And increasingly less often. Their phone? Can't live without it. It's already a primary device. > > Well people couldn't live without "dumbphones" either so this is > natural progress. They could. They had desktops or laptops. Most people would replace their phone in a day if it broke or were lost. A home computer? Weekend. Maybe next weekend. > "I agree that we will see more smartphones and tablets in the future" > ... yes no doubt that market still has a potential to grow. I just do > not believe that a significant amount of people will throw there > desktops/laptops away and use tablets / smartphones instead. Most people will. There will be no advantage to a desktop or laptop. So far, speed is all that's really come up. That's going to be a non-issue in a hurry. There's BILLIONS of dollars pouring into mobile and tablet right now. It's what people want. > > Tablets are 99% consumption only devices. Your are missing the > "production market" ... people do use computers to do work, write the > apps that the tablet/smartphone people enjoy etc. Developer market? Image editing and video editing stations? Small markets. Enough to maintain x86? Yeah sure, for a while. But as a majority? Mobile market isn't just syphoning users from the consumer desktop market, it's growing the market. > So no there is still a marked beyond the consumption only devices > (tablets) and the data centers (servers). The world is not black and > white. It is a shrinking market. > >> Thunderbolt on an ARM tablet to connect a larger display, bluetooth keyboard, and internet access and the overwhelming majority can do what they need to do. > > Which is a lot more work then simply open the laptop and start working. Consumers are complicated. >> For home users, it has already happened a while ago. They don't need a desktop. They probably don't need a laptop either. > > When home user == "only consumes content" then yes but that is not > necessarily the only use of computers / laptops at home either. It's the majority case. Email, web browser, books, Netflix, and it's a baby sitter. It's like candy multiplied by TV for kids. Way more interesting for them than desktop computers or laptops. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel