On 31/01/12 01:44, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matthias Runge wrote: >> Maybe introducing a "testing"-release as concession to both sides is >> acceptable? >> >> - newest versions, including risk of being broken -> rawhide >> - (merely) stable versions will be propagated from rawhide to "testing" >> - branching stable versions each six months (or so) from testing-branch > > No. > > * It's extra work to maintain the extra branch: Who would decide when a > package is stable enough for testing? Most likely, the maintainer, who would > then have to deal with Bodhi for testing as well, in addition to doing it > for the releases. Having to work with Bodhi for Rawhide builds is a non- > starter, it's already enough of a PITA to do it for the branched release. We > cannot get any development done that way. > > * As I already pointed out elsewhere in the thread, branching stable from > testing rather then Rawhide would mean older software in stable. We are not > Debian, we want to ship current software! > > So no, I don't see the Debian model working for us, at all, and I don't > consider that an acceptable compromise at all. > > Kevin Kofler > You're right, putting a testing line between rawhide and stable makes software in stable a little older. Nobody said, packages in testing should stay there as long as in debian-testing. Let users decide, if something goes from rawhide to testing; take a limit of 3 days to stay in rawhide, before it's allowed for testing. Three days should prevent major breakages. I know, this is kind of strict and burdens more work to maintainers. Building in this model into bodhi could automate almost everything of it. If we take your model (if I remember right): everybody is allowed to submit everything in every branch may lead to some instable systems. This model can't prevent breakage in any branch. I'd say: it provokes breakage. I'm pretty convinced, nobody wants to break something. Ignorance, even through no ones fault will do easily harm here. -- Matthias Runge <mrunge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mrunge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel