On 30/01/12 00:59, Henrique Junior wrote: > I've started talking to Greg KH, the guy who implemented openSUSE > Tumbleweed. Here is what he said: Oh great. Thank you for doing something constructive here. I'm concerned about bundled libs and requirements of libraries. If I remember right, up to a certain point, gnome was dependant on a special javascript-library of firefox. So updateing firefox to a higher version would have broken gnome (to a certain point). One could avoid this, if one would include required libraries for own packages. (canceling the no-bundled-libs-rule). This rule afaik does not exist in SuSE. Their guidelines have this: [1] (same for fedora [2]) Packages in openSUSE should make every effort to avoid having multiple, separate, upstream projects bundled together in a single package. In other words: as maintainer you should try to avoid bundling libraries and other dependencies, but it's not strictly forbidden, like in fedora. [3] In some other ways, I had the feeling, other distros didn't try to be as clean as fedora tries to be (I must admint, I have a very limited and onesided view). Being less strict here creates more freedom for package maintainers. Maybe introducing a "testing"-release as concession to both sides is acceptable? - newest versions, including risk of being broken -> rawhide - (merely) stable versions will be propagated from rawhide to "testing" - branching stable versions each six months (or so) from testing-branch If someone wants a rolling release, he might use "testing" without the bleeding edge of rawhide. A testing version just wouldn't break everything we had in the past and also support a more usable testing platform. Matthias [1] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_guidelines#Bundling_of_multiple_projects [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Bundling_of_multiple_projects [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries -- Matthias Runge <mrunge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mrunge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel